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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: Livres en francais~ Reply with quote

is anyone a francophone here? French Immersion? I want to start reading French books. My boyfriend said he read a lot of French novels while he was in French Immersion and that helped him with vocabulary. But I don't know where to start. I've taken up to Gr11 French and I don't think I can read novels... but some picture books are too easy.

je ne sais pas quoi lire~ <-- i don't even know if i wrote that right :P

aidez-moi? :3?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything you wrote was perfect Happy

I'm francophone, but I don't read that many french books =$ Good ones to start off with would be anything by Dominique Demers, her Marie-Lune series is a great, easy teen read.

I can also suggest reading translations of English books, however you have to be careful because some translations are better than others because sometimes some puns or whatever get lost in translations or the vocabulary isn't too great. Good ones I've read so far: anything by Philip Pullman (author of that golden compass thing) and the Harry Potter series.

Hope this helps!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ouii~ merci :3

je chercherai les livres Marie-Lune quand je suis au Québec~

i guess i should try reading the HP books in french... e_e is it hard? In English, it is considered a children's book... a very long children's book... but it would be good since I already know the story~
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IN FRENCH

Tu te débrouilles bien en français Razz ! Il y a seulement une petite erreur :

"Je chercherai les livres Marie-Lune quand je serai au Québec."

Je me demandais où tu allais te procurer des livres en français, mais maintenant que je sais que tu vas venir au Québec, voici mes suggestions :

- Une famille et demie, Des vacances à temps partiel et Un automne entre parenthèses d'Élyse Poudrier (les deux derniers livres mettent en scène les mêmes personnages)

- À fleur de peau et Le Grand Vertige de Martine Latulippe

- Chanson pour Frédéric, Les Fausses Notes, Les Naufrages d'Isabelle, Envers et contre tous, En plein coeur, Sur les pas de Julie et Sur la pointe des pieds de Tania Boulet

Mon livre préféré de cette auteure est Les Naufrages d'Isabelle. Les deux premiers livres parlent de Maxine et les quatre derniers racontent la vie de Clara et de son amie Julie.

- La Lumière blanche, La Deuxième Vie, La Chambre d'Éden I et II d'Anique Poitras

Au lieu d'acheter les quatre livres séparément, tu pourrais acheter Le Roman de Sara qui les regroupe tous en un volume.

- Ta voix dans la nuit et Marie-Tempête de Dominique Demers

Marie-Tempête englobe les trois livres relatant l'histoire de Marie-Lune : Un hiver de tourmente, Les Grands sapins ne meurent pas et Ils dansent dans la tempête.

L'ensemble de ces romans font partie de la collection Titan de la maison d'édition Québec Amérique. Ils sont faciles à lire et ils traitent des tourments de l'adolescence. Je pense qu'ils pourraient être un bon début pour toi.

Si tu recherches des livres qui représentent un plus grand défi, tu pourrais lire Là où la mer commence de Dominique Demers. C'est une version modifiée de l'histoire de La Belle et la Bête ^^ !

Il y a aussi les romans policiers de Chrystine Brouillet comme Le Collectionneur et Chère Voisine. Ses autres livres sont beaucoup plus gros et difficiles à comprendre. J'ai beaucoup aimé Le Collectionneur, parce qu'on est tenu en haleine jusqu'à la fin.

Je n'ai pas vraiment d'autres idées de livres québécois en tête. Je crois que c'est dû au fait qu'on lit beaucoup de traductions de livres anglophones. On lit aussi des classiques de la littérature française que je ne te conseille pas, puisqu'ils sont écrits en vieux français.

Bonne lecture Wink !


IN ENGLISH *if you don't understand it in French*

You're pretty good in French Razz ! There's only one mistake :

"Je chercherai les livres Marie-Lune quand je serai au Québec."

I was wondering where you would have find French books, but now that I know you will come in Quebec, here are my suggestions :

- Une famille et demie, Des vacances à temps partiel and Un automne entre parenthèses by Élyse Poudrier (the last two books present the same characters)

- À fleur de peau and Le Grand Vertige by Martine Latulippe

- Chanson pour Frédéric, Les Fausses Notes, Les Naufrages d'Isabelle, Envers et contre tous, En plein coeur, Sur les pas de Julie and Sur la pointe des pieds by Tania Boulet

My favorite Tania Boulet's book is Les Naufrages d'Isabelle. The first two books talk about Maxine and the last four ones tell Clara and her friend Julie's life.

- La Lumière blanche, La Deuxième Vie, La Chambre d'Éden I and II by Anique Poitras

Instead of buying the four books separately, you could buy Le Roman de Sara that puts them together in a bigger book.

- Ta voix dans la nuit and Marie-Tempête by Dominique Demers

Marie-Tempête includes the three books that tell Marie-Lune's story : Un hiver de tourmente, Les Grands sapins ne meurent pas and Ils dansent dans la tempête.

All of those novels belong to the collection Titan from the publishing house Québec Amérique. They're easy to read and they deal with the adolescence torments. I think they could be a good start for you.

If you are looking for books that are more challenging, you could read Là où la mer commence by Dominique Demers. It's a modified version of The Beauty and the Beast story ^^ !

There are also Chrystine Brouillet's detective novels like Le Collectionneur and Chère Voisine. Her other books are bigger and harder to understand. I liked a lot Le Collectionneur because we are kept in suspense until the end.

I don't really have in mind other ideas of books from Quebec. I think it's due to the fact that we read a lot of English translations. We also read French literature classics that I don't recommend to you since they are written in an old French.

Good reading Wink !
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

graphic novels in French. I can't think of any off the top of my head. But those are good, too because you get active images along with it as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aahaha i bought archie comics..
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in french imersion, but only through elem. school. I didn't want to take french everything, but english for courses, so I went off with english school.

I only remember short novels...
but nowadays, you can get pretty much everything that's in english, in french.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

=/ i really want to be fluent in it tho... i can always learn grammar and stuff... but i really want to be able to speak and understand it. french sounds so different than how its spelled out and its so fast!!!

ahaha yes i saw a lot of french versions of my favourite books but they were all really expensive. O: but i got some from the library so =)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

t3hmimo wrote:
=/ i really want to be fluent in it tho... i can always learn grammar and stuff... but i really want to be able to speak and understand it. french sounds so different than how its spelled out and its so fast!!!

ahaha yes i saw a lot of french versions of my favourite books but they were all really expensive. O: but i got some from the library so =)


I pretty much felt the same when I learned English. At my first English class in high school, I was not able to present myself in English and my teacher was talking Chinese to me. I think she has never pronounced a word in French and she was really severe. We had a lot of books to read and I have to say that my dictionary was in that time my best friend. Learning another language is not easy at all :S !

By the way, it was a great idea to buy Archie comics... Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ is your first language french??? OConfused why did you have an english class in high school? or... did you just take english like im taking french in high school?

so... how did you get past that? i live in vancouver and we dont really have a french community... so i wouldnt know how to practice listening and speaking. the only channel in french is 7 and its that CBC thing so they don't always have the most interesting thing on. =/ the music world is pretty dominated by english although im trying to dive into the french music world. i was looking through podcasts in french that would interest me or that i could listen to but none so far...

xD yeah well im back in vancouver and i dunno where im going to find french archie comics here!!! tho they weren't difficult to read and they were funny =]
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, French is my first language. Here in Quebec, we have English classes during our five years of high school and we must pass them and the final exams that count for 50% of our marks to have our diploma. As you can see, we don't really have the choice. I began to learn English in grade 4, but now children have English classes at 6 years old. This is a controversy subject since they can't barely write in French when they arrive in high school. They are better in English. English grammar is less complicated than the French one and that's why their marks are in the 60s in French and maybe 80s in English. This is quite crazy and scary.

In primary school, students can do an enriched program in English, but I didn't have this chance. So, when I started high school, I literally freaked out. I had been accepted in the international program and all my classmates were already bilingual. My orals and texts were always ridiculous compared to them. My marks were in the 60s, maybe 70s if I was lucky. One day, I decided to watch America's Next Top Model and my English really improved, lol :P ! Little by little, I enjoyed it and started to understand more than words.

At my final year of high school, my marks were pretty good and I finished my English with more than 95%. I can't remember what they were exactly, but I was proud of myself.

People who were in the international program with me are very good in English, but it's not the same thing for the regular students of my generation. I have some friends that can't say a sentence in English. I was really shocked when I discovered it and I asked them "How did you pass your English ?" and they said to me that they cheated :S !

I have to say that our teachers aren't that great in English. Even if I hated my teacher of secondary 1 and 2, she has been the best that I had. My other teachers were talking about their lifes during our classes and I had to study at home to prepare myself for the exams.

The education system in Quebec is so lame. We have 5 years of high school and then, 2 or 3 years in CEGEP before university. We have two obligatory English classes in CEGEP and there are four different levels. I was in the high level, but I asked to go in the medium one cuz I still have difficulties with the speaking and the grammar.

If you want to improve your French, you could watch movies in French with the subtitles in English. It would be a great alternative since you can't watch tv shows in French.

Finally, I hope your French classes won't be a nightmare for you. Good luck ^^ !
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

t3himimo and MAG, I'm reading an Archie comic too!
It's really good because there are pictures and it's pretty simple to understand!

In Toronto, sometimes there will be English movies in French on TV. I watched Pirates of the Caribbean and Mulan.I put french subtitles, which is good because you learn the pronouncation really well.
Reading and watching stuff that you already know helps a lot! You can link the words together, (especially if you memorized everything Icon_winktongue )
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ Ahh! Une compatriote du PEI! XD

French is my first language too, except that, when I was 5 we moved to the States. I did all my elementary school in English without any French. My parents spoke French all the time at home, so I guess it stuck with me a bit, I just had a hard time speaking.

Anyway, we moved to Québec City when I was in Sec. I. (Sec. I = Grade 7) I went to an English high school for one year and I was in French Second Language. This is where I pretty much learned grammar basics and all that jazz. I went to this school for one year, but found it boring and not really challenging. My mom thought that maybe I should try the PEI or Programme d'études internationales (or Programme des élèves intélligents (because of our wonderful reputation) ou encore Programme des études inutiles, etc.) It's a very demanding enriched program where at the end of five years you get a world renowned diploma that isn't recognized by any colleges or universities, that doesn't really give you anything in the end but lower your average because the work load is doubled with useless projects for the IBO.

ANYROAD, unaware of all this, I moved from easy-peasy English school to an über-demanding program in a language I barely mastered. Anyway, I managed to get good grades all the way through (except for math...blegh) and finished with an overall average of 82. And just above my class average in french with 78. ^^
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^Haha programme des études inutiles!! LOL

French is my first language too and in my city it's not hard to find french schools because like sooo many people speak french here. We are an officially bilingual city Happy (just wikipediaed my city really quick: 32% of Ottawa's population is french-speaking) Especially since we are right across the border from Quebec, french language is pretty prominent here. I am saying this because I want to agree with MAG about the Quebec school system. Not that I'm in any position to say anything because I've never been directly exposed, but yes it is laaaame. I hate how they have sec 1 - 5 then CEGEP and THEN university. Like how many schools do you need to go to?! AAAH

Also I find it really weird how they make you do all that english because you are most likely going to go to a Quebec university or whatever, which will be french.

Here in french Ontario schools we need at least 2 credits of high school english to graduate; however it is highly recommended that you take all four years of high school english because we have so little french or bilingual universities (in Ontario I believe we only have 2)...


To get back to the subject, french book are great haha. Anything by Dominique Demers honestly.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ I wanna learn international french~~~ or 'parisian' french. D: my french exchange student kept laughing when she was watching radio-canada.

cough. i had to get that out.

anyway

xD really? Ottawa is bi??? im going there too~~~ O:

what other places in canada are bilingual? I know NB is...

BUT IM IN BC. we straightup anglo. Very Happy + asian. more ppl know chinese then french here. not that i mind since it is my mother tongue.
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